Comments on: Periodic Tables and Strange Attractors

By: Julio Gutierrez Samanez

Julio Gutierrez Samanez — Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:07:04 +0000

Dear Mr. David Black
Very interesting your work of rescuing the contributions about of the PT., especially of Mazurs, and the genial work of C. Janet. It really is invaluable that all this can be seen around the world, previously impossible, the magic of the Internet brings us closer to understanding the science with such precision and astounding beauty.
For my part I made a development of the Chancourtois telluric screw, and I have a mathematical studies on mathematical functions or matrices that make up the P.T.
I am currently finalizing a new version of my studies, in which I have found a mathematical relationship that I believe it define a new quantic number, and is the concept of Binode (a pair of atomic levels or a pair of periodic in the Left Step Janet P T, in the Dr. Scerri’s book, page 283 ) so I’ve designed a new table called “Binodic Table”, and that corresponds to a simple mathematical expression: a parabolic curved
Addresses or links are as follows. The paper it is in Spanish language.

http://www.monografias.com/trabajos-pdf/tabla-periodica-nuevo-modelo/tabla-periodica-nuevo-modelo.shtml

DNA of the Materia or the telluric screw of Gutierrez Samanez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6959WqYcOQ

My best wishes to you.

Julio Gutiérrez Samanez
From Cuzco, Peru

By: Roy Alexander

Roy Alexander — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:29:04 +0000

The videos are great!
Just right for the YouTube format. Love the graphics and the emphasis on de Chancourtois.
Sorry that the AAE, successor to the Telluric Screw couldn’t get in there.
Good Luck with them, and keep up the good work.
Roy

By: davidvblack

davidvblack — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:48:07 +0000

Roy:
My e-mail address is: elementsunearthed@gmail.com

Thanks!
David Black

By: Roy Alexander

Roy Alexander — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:08:44 +0000

It seems that working with 3D blocks to picture a tabular item is the hard way, and I can see that determining what hinges this way or that for a looping and folded sheet could be problematical, even with the vertical plane always the same.
Roy

By: Roy Alexander

Roy Alexander — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:05:43 +0000

I can send one if you provide an address (preferably by email).

Roy@allperiodictables.com

By: davidvblack

davidvblack — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:20:53 +0000

Roy:
The difficulty I’ve had wasn’t with making a physical paper model, but with creating a virtual 3D model with animation (similar to what you see in the videos with the tiles shifting to become a left-step table, for example). I can’t get the solid blocks to wrap around naturally enough.
Thanks for the higher resolution photo of Glen Seaborg. I will be creating more videos on the periodic table (properties of the elements, etc.). I don’t think you’ve sent me a paper model.
David Black

By: Roy Alexander

Roy Alexander — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:39:25 +0000

David:
I’m surprised at the difficulty. Nothing could be simpler.
I just put online an article with illustrations of how 5th graders can make a 3D periodic table out of a standard flat table. (see http://www.allperiodictables.com/LeftStepAAEOnline/ )
I started with a left-step table (also online), but starting with the standard long form table works just as well, as all the gaps are closed ultimately in any case. Once the first step, make a circle, is done, they are alike. (Using the standard short form means inserting the Rare Earths first.)

I left off the H and He because of the contentiousness on the Sciencebase Blog, but that is a simple wrap as well, H starts overLi, and extends around to join with He, which is over Ne. (see http://allperiodictables.com/kin )

I did send you a DeskTopper, didn’t I?

I have put a Seaborg hires photo at http://allperiodictables.com/3d/ap.wwp.Seaborg.jpg for you. The photo with his “favorite periodic table” (according to the photographer, Susan Ragan) was used in the Guinness Book and world wide for most of his obituaries. The Rare Earths, which he had displaced from the main body of the table is the loop in his right hand on his model which I had made for him – well in advance of the official naming of 108 – near his left hand. (Please attribute AP World Wide Photo.)

By: davidvblack

davidvblack — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:18:48 +0000

Roy:
I got looking at how I would try to create a 3D model out of the tile objects I’d used for the other animations, and I couldn’t see how to do your Alexander Arrangement justice – it wouldn’t have had the right curvature and look, especially in the first few elements. I did find a photo online of Glen Seaborg holding one of your completed Arrangements, but it was too low resolution to use in the final video. Did you present him with that?
David Black

By: Roy Alexander

Roy Alexander — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:54:14 +0000

Hello David,
Any news about the computer animation of the AAE?
Can I help?
Roy

By: Roy Alexander

Roy Alexander — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:15:01 +0000

David,

If, in your video presentation, aspects of the AAE are to be mentioned, perhaps the following would be interesting points to be considered;

1. the table conforms strictly to Mendeleev’s line – without cuts, and following the n+1 (Madelung) rule. This includes no cuts at the ends of periods or blocks as well, and no spaces (as in spiral illustrations) anywhere.

2. The (single) H box (alone) is elongated, which permits H to be touching on Be, Li, F, and He, either with a full or part of a side or a corner. The rationale for these connectivities(?) or kinships, whether they be primary, secondary, or tertiary, will have to be determined by others. Other relationships with element groups have been championed by one or the other of periodic table afficianadoes, and the long strip, which is the H box, soars over all the element groups of the s- and p-blocks, which might satisfy a few.

3. Some primary, secondary, or tertiary kinships have been identified as occurring with the AAE that can not be found on a flat chart. Except for H, above, primary kinships shown are pretty much the same as on most flat tables. The extra dimension permits an element data box corner on one plane to be in contact with a corner on another plane.
Therefore; secondary kinships shown corner to corner on the AAE are Al-Sc, and Y-La, and not on flat tables, and tertiary kinships shown only on the AAE, also corner to corner, are of Mg-Zn and Sr-Yb.

Have I sent you an AAE model so you can see for yourself?

Roy